Question:
ROYAL FAMILY QUESTION! Was it true that if Prince Charles married again he would loose his royal seat?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
ROYAL FAMILY QUESTION! Was it true that if Prince Charles married again he would loose his royal seat?
Eleven answers:
The Dark Side
2010-11-25 15:51:55 UTC
There has been no change in the law and it has never been true that being divorced or marrying a divorced person stops you from being king or queen.



What IS true is that because of King Henry VIII making himself head of the English church, every English (and later British) monarch after him has been Supreme Governor of the Church of England, that church has traditionally been totally against divorce, and therefore it looks stupid to have a king or queen who has broken the church's rules. That provided the excuse to make King Edward VIII abdicate in 1936.



The Church of England has changed its views since then and its priests are allowed to remarry divorced people if they want to. So it is no longer a problem and it was always true that once they married, Camilla would be queen when Charles becomes king. It's just that out of public opinion about Princess Diana, Camilla has chosen not to be called Princess of Wales even though that's what she is, and will be called Princess Consort instead of Queen when the time comes. Though Charles is quietly intriguing to change that.
flyingbug
2010-11-25 19:01:11 UTC
Charles has always been next-in-line to be King. He was second-in-line at birth and is now heir-apparent. His marriage to Camilla was deemed to be legal, and Camilla will be the next Queen (even if she doesn't use the title, she will legally be Queen upon Charles' accession).
capitalgentleman
2010-11-25 18:57:50 UTC
Charles' marriage to Camilla did nothing to change his being next in line for the Throne.



And, yes, on that sad day when HM the Queen dies, Charles becomes King, and Camilla would be Queen, although she has asked to be called "Princess Consort" not "Queen Consort." What she will be is actually up to Charles, and it seems he would rather she be Queen - which she would be entitled to be.
anonymous
2010-11-25 16:03:45 UTC
No, it was not true. There isn't and never was a law against the heir's marrying a divorced person. No "law change" was required.



The problems that attended Edward VIII's abdication in the 1930's and Princess Margaret's desire to marry a divorced man in the 1950's involved severe social disapproval of divorce in earlier eras and the fact that the Church of England prohibited the remarriage of divorced people in religious ceremonies. I've already posted on all that at least three times.



Times have changed in terms of attitudes towards divorce, and the C of E dropped its prohibition against the religious remarriage of divorced people in the early 2000's.



When Charles succeeds to the throne, his wife Camilla will be the legal queen consort. She will not be a queen regnant like her mother-in-law, Elizabeth II, but as the wife of the king, she will be fully entitled to be queen consort, like the Queen Mother was when her husband, King George VI, occupied the throne. Whether she will use the title or not is not clear.



Camilla is, by the way, the legal Princess of Wales, though she uses the titles Duchess of Cornwall and, in Scotland, Duchess of Rothesay.



Anne-Marie, Camilla didn't have to be "given" the title of Princess of Wales; it became hers as soon as she married the Prince of Wales. In UK royal and aristocratic protocol, women take their titles and styles from their husbands' status. Whatever Camilla calls herself, she is the Princess of Wales.



Laurie, in the UK and most other countries, including the US, a civil wedding is "just as legal" as a religious wedding. In many countries, it is MORE legal. Those countries require a civil ceremony, but a religious wedding is merely optional.



Civil ceremonies in the UK are entirely legal. Whether the heir to throne can marry only in a civil ceremony continues to be a matter of debate, I realize, but why should he or she not enjoy the same legal rights accorded to all other British citizens? Especially since there isn't and never was a law against the monarch's or the heir's marrying a divorced person?
007
2010-11-25 15:48:05 UTC
The wedding made Charles the first member of the Royal Family to be civilly wed in England. Official documents had been published by BBC that stated such a marriage was illegal,[34] though these were dismissed by Clarence House,[35] and explained to be obsolete by the sitting government.[36]



It's called a civil wedding so I'm wondering if this is a different kind of marriage than the normal legal marriage. And would he be able to become king because of it?



Found an old article about the civil union of Charles & Camilla... You might find it interesting.

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LONDON, Feb. 17 - It was, perhaps, inevitable.



In a country that can argue endlessly about such royal minutiae as whether it is appropriate for the queen to keep her breakfast cereal in plastic containers, a backlash against the second marriage of Charles, the Prince of Wales, is well under way.



Whether the couple will win acceptance with their subjects remains to be seen. But one thing is certain: for Charles, it will not be anything like the first time.



"Boring Old Gits to Wed" was how The Star announced the news last week- the other "old git" in the headline being Charles's fiancée, Camilla Parker Bowles. "What is there to celebrate?" asked Amanda Platell in The Daily Mail. "That a 56-year-old man has finally married his mistress?"



Britons have various reasons for their misgivings about the wedding, which is to take place April 8. Some feel that Charles, who cheated on his first wife, Diana, with Mrs. Parker Bowles, does not deserve to live happily ever after with the woman they regard as the agent of Diana's distress. Others simply object on general principle to Mrs. Parker Bowles, who has long been cast as the wicked stepmother in the ruined royal fairy tale.



Still others simply wish the royal family would go away and stop bothering everyone.



"Why should these meaningless people be embedded in our national imagination?" wrote Polly Toynbee, a columnist with The Guardian. "Ludicrous and grotesque for the wretched royal performers and their subjects alike, this is the least dignified of all state institutions."



Certainly all the speculation about Charles's mother, Queen Elizabeth, and her meddlesome attitude toward the wedding has been extremely undignified.



At first the queen seemed almost giddy with joy, at least by her modest emotional standards. "We're very happy," her office said in a statement on the day the engagement was announced. But since then, the queen has appeared intent - if you believe the popular press - on controlling the wedding plans, even if it means overriding her son's wishes.



In normal family weddings, the role of older-generation wedding irritant is rightfully claimed by the mother of the bride, who exercises her natural-born duty to challenge everything from the size of the guest list to the color of the trim on the bridesmaids' sashes. But this is not a normal family, and the queen - who is to be host at the reception, at Windsor Castle - outranks anyone she feels like outranking.



According to Trevor Kavanagh, The Sun's political editor and a man as knowledgeable as anyone when it comes to these matters (which isn't saying a lot), Elizabeth has nixed Charles's idea of having a romantic reception at "dozens of intimate candlelit round tables." Instead, The Sun reported, she wants a muted, stuffy dinner at "one long, formal rectangular table."



More alarmingly for a couple who between them have lived 113 years and produced four children (with other people), the queen has also apparently instituted what The Sun calls a "pre-wedding sex ban," decreeing that they should spend the night before the wedding sleeping "in different wings of the castle." She has also exerted her monarchical prerogative over the menu, Mr. Kavanagh reported, airily dictating that Charles "won't be able to serve dinner guests his beloved organic vegetables from Highgrove."



Whatever her issues with organic produce, at least the queen is resigned to the marriage on the ground that having her son safely wed would remove some of the awkwardness surrounding his relationship with Mrs. Parker Bowles. But others are not happy. No sooner had the engagement been announced than a motley parade of constitutional experts and royal protocol-watchers emerged from the woodwork to provide various reasons the marriage could not, or should not, take place.



There was much talk of the precedent, of tradition and of the 1836 Marriage Act, which according to Stephen Cretney, emeritus professor of legal history at Oxford, could well make their planned civil marriage illegal. The act, which legalized nonchurch weddings for the first time, "does not apply to members of the royal family," he told the BBC.



In an indication of the difficulty of the arrangements, Prince Charles's office announced Thursday that the wedding would be moved to the Guildhall in Windsor, saying that licensing the castle itself for the wedding would be too disruptive.



Then, there was the question of Camilla's status. Not making her queen, argued the historian Andrew Roberts, was "an insult to Camilla and British women." At the other end of the argument was the nagging fear of what an Express headline darkly called the "Queen Camilla Plan," which Charles is said to be plotting to make Camilla queen, even though he said he would not.



The theory goes that the engagement announcement used the word "intended" when saying Camilla would eventually become the princess consort - not the queen - as a sneaky rhetorical way of providing a future escape hatch. As The Express pointed out, the prince had publicly declared several times that that he had "no intention" of remarrying - and look what he is doing now.



Ultimately the issue comes back to Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles, and whether people like them or not. The jury is out on this matter. Unfortunately for the couple, news reports about the engagement have invariably rehearsed, in grisly detail, less-than-proud moments from their shared history: the way she is said to have orchestrated Charles's marriage to Diana because she thought (wrongly) that Diana would prove pliable and clueless; the way he grandly informed Diana that he did not intend to be the only Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress.



Worst of all was the publication in 1993 of a bugged 11-minute telephone conversation the couple had had when both were married to other people (Charles and Diana separated in 1992). In it was intimate talk of the most excruciating kind, culminating in Charles's distinctly un-regal wish to live, he said, inside his mistress's trousers.



"It was all deeply humiliating," Elizabeth Grice wrote in The Daily Telegraph, in an appraisal of the couple's chances of gaining public acceptance. "None of the dignity that has accrued to them since, through time and patience and good works, will entirely obliterate some of these images."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/18/international/europe/18royals.html?sq=&st=nyt&scp=291&pagewanted=all&position=
anonymous
2010-11-25 15:19:06 UTC
The law was never changed there was nothing to stop the heir to the throne remarrying another divorcee.
?
2016-05-31 02:30:50 UTC
Deeley and Syd have said it ALL and I totally agree. Just to add that it's a huge shame that Charles wasn't allowed to marry Camilla before she was married, and when Charles was so obviously in luv with her. The Diana pairing should never have happened!! Except she has injected some good looks into the Family via her sons. I have to say Camilla wasn't bad looking as a young girl however, so who knows. I feel very sorry for Charles because so many things about his upbringing affected the man he is today, much as unlike most of us, he'll never need to worry about a roof over his head, or food on his table lol. He's just emotionally screwed up.
?
2010-11-26 13:34:35 UTC
The only way Charles could lose his place in the line of succession because of marriage is if he A) marries a Catholic in violation of the Act of Settlement of 1701 or B) he marries someone without getting the Sovereign's permission prior to marriage, a violation of the Royal Marriages Act of 1772.



As long as Charles' wife is a Protestant and he got Elizabeth's permission first, he can marry who he wants and not lose his place in the line of succession.



Now for Camila---when Charles becomes King, she has the legal right, as the wife of the King to be crowned Queen. However, she would be a Queen Consort not a Queen Regnant. She will have no power, no authority. Whether or not she will actually be crowned Queen may be moot. When she and Charles got married, it was announced that once Charles becomes King, she would be called "Princess Consort".



As for "laws changed"....the only legal question regarding Charles ad Camilla's marriage is that according to 2 separate British Laws regarding Civil marriages, the Royal Family was barred from Civil marriages. This is why Princess Margaret couldn't marry Peter Townsend back in the 50s. This means that Charles and Camilla are not legally married. HOWEVER, Britain is part of the European Union. Membership includes allowing for EU laws to overrule National laws that conflict with the EU laws. The EU law known as "Human Rights Act of 1998" allows for Civil Marriages to be legal for everyone with no exceptions. This EU law, which makes Charles and Camilla marriage legal, overrules British laws that state that the marriage is illegal.
Ms. Minerva
2010-11-26 10:26:10 UTC
Well, it may have been true that Charles was extremely nervous about marrying Camilla.....and how the crowds outside the place where they did get married might react......but I don't think that he was ever so nervous that he was about to "loose" his seat. Charles is pretty self-disciplined as far as doing things in public like "loose his seat"....and I don't think that years of active military training failed to give him the kind of self-control that soldiers and genlemen are expected to exert over themselves and their body functions when they are in public.



No one changed any laws to enable Charles and Camilla to marry....under the laws of the UK, they were perfectly able to marry....no laws had to be changed for them to do it.



Yes, Camilla will certainly be your next Queen if Charles winds up being your next King. Laws WOULD have to be changed to keep her from being and calling herself Queen Consort....and no one in the UK is going to suggest changing the laws to do that.



So, be assured that Charles will never "loose his seat" or control of his body functions while in public, and that the marriage is perfectly legal, and that Camilla becoming Queen Consort when he becomes King is inevitable.
anonymous
2010-11-25 21:36:11 UTC
Ummm, no.



See, he DID marry Camilla (note correct spelling) and he did NOT lose (again, note correct spelling) his place in line.



So...no. He wasn't going to "loose" it. (to loose means to let something fly, like an arrow, or a caged pigeon).
anonymous
2010-11-25 15:17:50 UTC
If the queen abdicates then Prince Charles will be the king, however it is uncertain as whether Camilla would take on title of Queen, as she was never given the title The Princess of Wales because of her suspected involvement with Prince Charles during his relationship with Lady Diana. The royal family have always said that Camilla would take the title Princess consort but Prince Charles has said that he would like Camilla to be queen,



Hope this clears things up for you.


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