If a parent receives an MBE does the order of precedence allow a daughter or son to hold that honor as well?

Question

Quote from wikipedia:

"Members of all classes of the Order are assigned positions in the order of precedence. Wives of male members of all classes also feature on the order of precedence, as do sons, daughters and daughters-in-law of Knights Grand Cross and Knights Commander; relatives of Ladies of the Order, however, are not assigned any special precedence. As a general rule, individuals can derive precedence from their fathers or husbands, but not from their mothers or wives (see order of precedence in England and Wales for the exact positions)."

Can anyone explain this to me a little easier?

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire

Thanks in advance for help with my question & explanation on this particular paragraph!

Answer 1

It does not mean they hold that honour. It is just the order of precedence. Which means very little these days, but...



If there were a banquet, with seats closest to the head table for those with higher precedence, a person who's father had an MBE would be seated closer to the front than someone with nothing. That's about it, and there would be very few occasions these days where order of precedence would even matter in ordinary situations. A procession might be one, but, these don't exactly come up every day!



But, no, the actual honour is only held by the recipient themselves.

Answer 2

MBE means that someone has been appointed to be a Member of the Order of the British Empire.



Higher status or rank (and what would Britain be like without Orders of status?) are indicated by OBE (Officer of the Order of the British Empire, CBE (Commander of the Order), KCBE (Knights Commander of the Order) and KGCBE (Knight Grand Cross of the Order).



None of these orders are passed onto to family members, but when a wife of ANY person appointed to the Order is accompanying her husband, or when a wife, sons, daughters, or daughters in Law are accompanying a KGC or KC of the Order, they are given equal precedence (perhaps best described as similar treatment and regard for status) as the holder of the honour, himself. Thus they would sit at table together in a position of equal status, be presented together with the family member to any Royals that were present and receive similar treatment and regard.



Note, however, that this precedence (similar treatment and regard) can only be derived from the father or husband (!) to their family members, whilst a son, or daughter, of a female member of the Order would NOT be given the same precedence as the female member, herself.

Answer 3

Let me put it this way: a son or daughter does NOT hold the honor as well.



However, when it comes to "precedence" in a procession, if such a thing occurs, then the holders and their wives and children will precede holders of lesser honours.



That's all it means for the wives and children, not that they get any titles of their own.



If a man is knighted -- let's say that he becomes "Sir John Smith" - his wife becomes "Lady Smith". She may not use the title before her own given name -- she does not become "Lady Jane" -- and the children get no titles at all.



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