Question:
I am descended of a Eng. Baron.My family fought for Indpndnce from UK, can I stil use the title The Honorable?
nlov101
2009-06-27 13:09:57 UTC
The descendants of English and Dutch Barons were afforded the title 'The Honourable' - I am descended of both Dutch and English Barons. However, my family was part of the Rebellion against England, and even fought alongside General George Washington. Can I still use the title The Honourable? I would like to know opinions from English, Dutch, and American sources.
Six answers:
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agneisq
2009-06-27 14:57:46 UTC
The title was probably rescinded once your ancestors' traitorous acts were made known. Why would the descendant of traitors want to use a title bestowed by the monarchy they betrayed??



But no, the title is too far back for you to be able to use it - it passes to children, but not descendants,
Paco
2009-06-27 13:24:34 UTC
No.

The title is only transferable to the children of a baron, not to later descendants.

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Given enough generations everyone is descended from royalty or a peer. ------------------

We had one blogger who was the great great great great grandchild of Queen Victoria via her second son. The blogger's name is "hey". That is actually fairly close to royalty, although "hey" didn't have a title.
anonymous
2009-06-27 14:44:11 UTC
Baron is a title of nobility. The word baron comes from Old French baron, itself from Old High German and Latin (liber) baro meaning "(free) man, (free) warrior"; it merged with cognate Old English beorn meaning "nobleman."



In the British peer system, barons rank below viscounts, and form the lowest rank in the peerage. A female of baronial rank has the honorific baroness. A baron may hold a barony (plural baronies), if the title relates originally to a feudal barony by tenure, although such tenure is now obsolete in England and any such titles are now held in gross, if they survive at all, as very few do, sometimes along with some vestigial manorial rights, or by grand serjeanty.



William I introduced "baron" as a rank in England to distinguish the men who had pledged their loyalty to him. Previously, in the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of England, the king's companions held the title of earls and in Scotland, the title of thane. All who held their barony "in chief of the king" (that is, directly from William and his successors) became alike barones regis (barons of the king), bound to perform a stipulated service, and welcome to attend his council. Before long, the greatest of the nobles, especially in the marches, such as the Earls of Chester or the Bishops of Durham, might refer to their own tenants as "barons", where lesser magnates spoke simply of their "men" (homines).



Initially those who held land direct of the crown by military service, from earls downwards, all alike bore the title of baron, but under Henry II, the Dialogus de Scaccario already distinguished greater (who held in baroniam by knights' service) or lesser baronies (generally smaller single manors). Within a century of the Norman Conquest, as in Thomas Becket's case (1164), there arose the practice of sending to each greater baron a special summons to the council that evolved into the House of Lords, while the lesser barons, Magna Carta (1215) stipulated, would receive summons only in general, through the sheriffs. Thus appeared a definite distinction, which eventually had the effect of restricting to the greater barons the rights and privileges of peerage.



Later, the sovereign could create a new barony in one of two ways: by a writ of summons directing someone to Parliament, or by letters patent. Writs of summons featured in medieval times, but creation by letters patent has become the norm. Baronies thus no longer directly relate to land ownership, following the Modus Tenendi Parliamenta (1419), the Feudal Tenure Act (1662), and the Fines and Recoveries Act (1834) which enabled such titles to be dis-entailed.



In the twentieth century Britain introduced the concept of non-hereditary life peers. All appointees to this distinction have taken place at the rank of baron.



In addition, Baronies are often subsidiary titles, thus being used as courtesy titles by the eldest sons of earls.
anonymous
2009-06-28 13:34:09 UTC
Of course you can. You can call yourself whatever you choose. It's all a bit daft as it is.
anonymous
2009-06-27 16:18:00 UTC
Of course you can.


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