Question:
Royal title question?
2011-01-01 13:47:40 UTC
If Swedish,Commewelth,Norwegion. Prince/Princess/King/Queen turned out to be gay, then proceded to marry or civil union the indidual what kind of title would they get?

Same sex marriage is legal in: Canada, Norway, Sweden. but civil partnerships in the UK.
Three answers:
The Dark Side
2011-01-01 14:14:00 UTC
Nobody knows as it's never happened so nobody's ever thought about it. But let's explore logically...



There is no problem with a Princess or a Queen being gay and married as the spouse of a Princess or Queen who is born into the royal family doesn't get any title from the marriage. Because of traditional male superiority, titles are shared from husband to wife but not the other way round - it'd be confusing otherwise! The usual thing that is done is to offer their husband some sort of noble title. In the UK that would usually be an earldom, as with the husband of Princess Margaret who was created Earl of Snowdon. Princess Anne's two husbands don't have any title at all - I would imagine that it was offered and they turned it down.



A gay Prince or King is another matter. The wife of a Prince or King automatically gets the female version of his title, but I really couldn't give an answer as to what the husband of a Prince or King would be. Perhaps a Prince's husband could also be a Prince, but you can't have more than one King at the same time so perhaps his husband would be a Prince too. That would make the most sense to me, just as the husband of a Queen is usually made a Prince, as with Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.



Civil partnership in the UK, by the way, is almost exactly the same thing as same-sex marriage except for the name, so don't be fooled. This was a political trick to get it through Parliament - the government could say "no it isn't marriage, look at the name" - not that that fooled anyone. The only differences are that it cannot be a religious ceremony (that kept the churches happy), in fact there doesn't have to be a ceremony at all, only a signing of the civil partnership register in front of 2 witnesses, and adultery is not a ground for divorce. What the government basically did apart from that was just copy all the legislation relating to marriage and change the appropriate words. There is a bit of a campaign in the UK to get "proper gay marriage" but as a British gay man myself I think it's pointless. We got what we wanted in terms of rights and responsibilities and most of us aren't going to get hung up over mere words. I have had the privilege of being best man at a civil partnership ceremony and as far as we were concerned it was a wedding.
flyingbug
2011-01-02 02:38:50 UTC
As a same-sex partnership hasn't happened within the Royal Families mentioned, no one knows.



How the churches in those countries see such a union is another matter.

For Norway:

religion: Evangelical Lutheran faith (the King must always belong to this faith)

marriage must be with consent of: the King

http://www.unofficialroyalty.com/norwegian-royals/75-succession/348-line-of-succession-to-the-norwegian-throne



For Sweden:

religion: Lutheran (for the King & Princes of the royal family)

marriage must be with consent of: the King with the advice of the Council of Ministers (for Princes & Princesses)

http://www.unofficialroyalty.com/swedish-royals/80-succession/401-line-of-succession-to-the-swedish-throne



For the UK/Commonwealth: the Monarch is Head of the Church of England. Those in the line of succession who wish to marry mush have HM's permission (Royal Marriages Act). If someone in the line of succession marries a Roman Catholic, he or she loses their place in the succession.

http://www.unofficialroyalty.com/british-royals/35-succession/48-scott
?
2011-01-02 01:44:19 UTC
I am supposing this is a hypothetical question.

I think that there would be a title there somewhere... probably Prince of something.



Good Luck!!


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