I don't know what you mean exactly, but I don't believe the Russian scientists when it comes to their assertion that it is Grand Duchess Marie missing just based on a few pictures and a pasted together skull. I agree with the American and British teams that assert that Anastasia is missing. I also have questions reguarding Anna Anderson, the famous Anastasia claimant who died in 1984. In 1994, DNA tests were conducted on an infected bowel tissue of her's and of some of her hair found in a book. It didn't match the Romanov women, but did match the profile of a Polish factory worker, Franziska Schanzkowska. But that dosen't make sense to me.
My Stance
"It is absolutely out of the question that Anna Anderson was anyone other than who she claimed to be. She was recognized by those who had been closest the the young Grand Duchess Anastasia (Lili Dehn and Alexandra Tegleva, Anastasia's nanny). No imposter would have known of such private details of the Imperial where only few were present, such as the incident in which only Alexandra, Lili Dehn, Anja, and the young Anastasia were present. The ears and the handwriting were absolutely identical. In 1957, Lili von Dehn who was one of Empress Alexandra's best friend and had been especially close to Anastasia came to meet Anna Anderson in the Black Forest where she was living. What she found was the young girl she had once known, now old and shriveled up. Her statement reads as follows:
'...I had a real shock when I first saw her, a poor, pale and wrinkled little face! The first impression was of a terrible sadness, but the moment I heard her voice... it was so familar to me, so real- the voice of the Grand Duchess Anastasia... No one can imitate the voice and the way of talking of a person he has never seen before... We spoke of Anja [Anna Vyrbouva], and she knew many details concerning her and her friendship with the Empress. She spoke of an occasion when the empress was very displeased, even angry with Anja. That was only known to the Empress, Anja, myself, and the little grand duchess who was present, but too young to understand the meaning and only remembered the fact. We spoke of the officers we mutually knew, and she never made a mistake... She did not like or want to speak Russian, but the few words which escaped her were absolutely correct; the family names, real Russian ones, were pronounced in exactly the right way. Her hands reminded me very much of the hands of her mother... What can I say after having known her? I certainly cannot be mistaken in her identity.'
This is but one example of many.
'Nearly fifty years ago, Anna Anderson told a story about a sketch she and her sister had put on to amuse their parents during their confinement in Tobolsk. She played a male part, she 'recalled', and and had to borrow a man's dressing-gown. At a pivotal moment in the play, a freak draught made the dressing gown billow up around their thighs, revealing that she was wearing the tsar's long-johns- against the bitter cold of the Siberian winter. The family, said Anna Anderson, had hooted with laughter. The only witnesses from the imperial household who would have been present at that scene, and who are known to have survived, were the two family tutors-both foreigners. One was the English tutor, Sydney Gibbes, and his memoirs were published for the first time in 1975. They include this account of an incident during amatuer theatricals in Tobolsk. "The cast," Gibbes wrote, "had its happiest night with an Edwardian farce by Henry Grattan, called 'Packing Up', ... Anastasia took the male part... at the end of the farce the 'Husband' had to turn his back, open his Dressing-gown as if to take it off- Anastasia used an old one of mine... but a draught got under the gown and whisked its tail up to the middle of her back, showing her sturdy legs and bottom encased Emperor Jaguer's underwear...' So far as exhaustive research can establish, only Anna Anderson had ever before told this vivid ancedote, in private and three decades before the Gibbes memoirs appeared. If Anderson was a phoney, as the seemingly damning DNA evidence now tells us, how did she know the story? That was one of the myriad puzzles that believers in Anna Anderson had to confront when the scientists delivered their verdict. Ian Lilburn, a research historian and the only observer to attend every session of the "Anastasia" appeal process in the German courts, had a calmer response than some. "I think," he said, knowing he sounded like a Luddite and Romanov flat-earther, " there is something we don't know about the DNA."
Olga Alexandrovna and Pierre Gilliard are the real reason people doubted the identity of Anna Anderson as Grand Duchess Anastasia. How anyone can trust them after they have been discredited by their own statements I do not know. Olga later said she had always known Anastasia was dead. If that is true why did she write Anna Anderson five loving and passionate letters which promised 'I will never abandon you'. Pierre Gilliard is a proven liar. He constantly touched up photos in his books and even said that Grand Duchess Anastasia had never learned German, despite the fact that it was he who had scheduled her lessons. The Franziska Schanzkowska story is obviously a lie from beginning to end. As if one detective in a matter of weeks would uncover Anna Anderson's identity when the Berlin police had failed to do so for seven years. This myth should have ended when Doris Wingender touched up a photo of Anna Anderson in court, adding to it buttons and belts in order to make her appear to be Schanzkowska.
It is inconcievable that a fraud would have been recognized by those closest to Anastasia and known the most intimate and secret details of Imperial Family life if she were not genuine. There is absolutely no hard proof that the samples tested for DNA were indeed from Anna Anderson. The chain of custody for the samples would NEVER have been acceptable in ANY court of law.
Could there have been a conspiracy to prove Anna Anderson/ Anastasia was a Polish farm girl, Franziska Schanzkowska? I don't know. But alot of evidence seemed to point that way prior to DNA.
There is no doubt however that there is an agenda among the Russians to prove Anastasia died in 1918, the fact the body buried under the name 'Anastasia' is measures 5'7 says as much. Anastasia was not the tallest of her sisters, she was the shortest by far.
From what we know of Franziska Schanzkowska, she was not anything like Anna Anderson/ Anastasia.
FS- over 5'3 AA- 5'2
FS- size '39 shoe AA- size '36 shoe
FS- no pregnancy recorded AA- did have a child
FS- not injured in grenade explosion AA- Had many stab wounds and lacerations
FS- family spoke mainly German AA- spoke very bad German
FS- family could not understand Russian AA- Could understand Russian very well
FS- reported missing March 9, 1920 AA- found Feb. 17, 1920- her picture was sent to many hospitals in Berlin but no one recognized her
Given these differences along with the fraud used by Doris Wingender during the Hamburg trials with her add-on buttons and belts, I find it rather diffucult to believe in the identification of AA with FS."
Here is a biography of Anastasia from wikipedia.
Her Imperial Highness Grand Duchess Anastasia of Russia (Anastasia Nikolaievna Romanova, in Russian: Великая Княжна Анастасия Николаевна Романова, Velikaya Knyazhna Anastasiya Nikolaievna Romanova) (June 5 (O.S.)/June 18 (N.S.) 1901 — July 17, 1918), sometimes nicknamed Nastya, Nastas, or Nastenka, was the youngest daughter of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and Empress Alexandra, the last autocratic rulers of Imperial Russia.
She was a younger sister of Grand Duchess Olga, Grand Duchess Tatiana and Grand Duchess Maria, and was an elder sister of Alexei Nikolaievitch, Tsarevitch of Russia.
Several women claimed to have been Anastasia, the most famous of which was Anna Anderson. Anderson's body was cremated upon her death in 1984. DNA testing on a surgical specimen said to have been retained since 1979 in a hospital and on hairs found in a book in 1994 determined that Anderson was not Anastasia.
She shared her name with Tsaritsa Anastasia of Russia, a 16th century Russian aristocrat whose marriage to the first Tsar, Ivan the Terrible, provided the Romanov family with their claim to the throne. She and her older sister Maria were known within the family as "The Little Pair" and shared a room, much like their two older sisters. All four affectionately went by the group name, OTMA.
A tomboy and intellect, she was reportedly comically good at wicked impersonations of those around her, and possessed a sharp wit and appreciation for sarcastic jokes. While often described as gifted and bright, she was never interested in the restrictions of school. She loved animals and always had her two dogs, Shvybzik and Jemmy, at her side. She spent her free time playing her record player, writing letters, watching movies, taking pictures (a family hobby), playing the balalaika with her brother Alexei and lying in the sun doing nothing. She suffered from stomach ailments much like her mother, and the painful medical condition hallux valgus (bunions), which affected the joints of both her big toes.
In February 1917, she and her family were placed under house arrest at the Alexander Palace in Tsarskoe Selo during the Russian Revolution. As the Bolsheviks approached, Alexander Kerensky of the Provisional Government had them moved to Tobolsk, Siberia. After the Bolsheviks seized majority control of Russia, she and her family were moved to Yekaterinburg where the seventeen year old girl who had once feasted on delecacies now had only black bread to eat and tea to drink. They were presumed to have been executed by a firing squad in the early morning of July 17, 1918. While some witnesses later said they saw her, her mother Alexandra Fyodorovna and sisters in Perm after the execution, it is widely discredited as nothing more than a fanciful and highly dramatic rumor.
After Tsar Nicholas II abdicated the throne in 1917, Russia quickly disintegrated into civil war and Anastasia and her family were placed under house arrest in the Alexander Palace at Tsarskoe Selo. They were soon transferred to the city of Tobolsk in Siberia and from there they, and a few servants, were moved to the mining town of Yekaterinburg in the Ural Mountains. Negotiations for their release between their Bolshevik (commonly referred to as 'Reds') captors and their extended family, many of whom were prominent members of the Royal Houses of Europe, stalled. As the Whites (loyalists still faithful to the Tsar and the principles of autocracy) advanced toward Yekaterinburg the Reds were in a precarious situation. The Reds knew Yekaterinburg would fall to the better manned and equipped White Army. When the Whites reached Ekaterinburg, the Imperial Family had simply dissappeard. The most accepted account was that the family had been executed. This was due to an investigation by investigator Sokolov, who came to the conclusion based on items that had belonged to the family being found thrown down a mine shaft.
History has always assumed that Anastasia was murdered along with her father and the rest of her family during the early morning hours of July 17, 1918 in a sub-basement room in the Ipatiev House (also referred to as 'The House of Special Purpose'), where they were being sequestered during their imprisonment in Yekaterinburg. The extra-judicial execution was carried out by forces of the Bolshevik secret police under the command of Yakov Yurovsky. According to the infamous "Yurovsky Note", an account of the event filed by Yurovsky to his Bolshevik superiors after the execution (found not until 1989). On the day of the murders the family was woken and told to dress. When they asked "why?" they were informed that they were being moved to a new location to ensure their safety in anticipation of the violence that might ensue when the White Army reached Yekaterinburg. Once dressed, the family and the small circle of servants and caregivers that had remained with them were herded into a small room in the house's sub-basement and told to wait. Alexandra and Alexei were allowed to sit in chairs provided by guards at the request of the Tsarina. After several minutes, the executioners entered the room, led by Yurovsky. With no hesitation, Yurovsky quickly informed the Tsar and his family that they were all to be executed. The Tsar had time to say only "What?" and turn to his family before he was assassinated with a bullet to the head. The Tsarina, who quickly made the sign of the cross before her, was the next to be assasinated. Olga and Tatiana were also killed in the initial volley of bullets fired by the weapons of the executioners, both suffering gunshot wounds to the head. The rest of the Imperial retinue were shot in short order, with the exception of Anna Demidova, Alexandra's lady-in-waiting. Demidova survived the initial onslaught, but was quickly murdered against the back wall of the basement, stabbed to death while trying to defend herself with a small pillow she had carried into the sub-basement that was filled with precious gems and jewels. The "Yurovsky Note" further reported that once the thick smoke that had filled the room from so many weapons being fired in such close proximity cleared, it was discovered that the executioners' bullets had ricocheted off the corsets of two of the Grand Duchesses. The executioners later came to find out that this was because the family's crowned jewels and diamonds had been sewn inside the linings of the corsets to hide them from their captors. The corsets thus served as a form of "armor" against the bullets. Because the bullets did not kill them, Anastasia and Marie were stabbed with the bayonets on the ends of the executioner's rifles. However, as the bodies were carried out, one of the girls cried out, and was clubbed on the back of the head.
The legend of Anastasia's possible survival and escape begins here. Feigning death, amongst the bodies of her family members and servants, it was claimed by nearly every Anastasia pretender that it was with the help of a compassionate guard who rescued her from amongst the corpses after noticing that she was still alive that she was able to make her escape. These rumors were fueled by later reports of trains and houses being searched for 'Anastasia Romanov' by Bolshevik soldiers and secret police. Strangely, there were also reports of a woman who claimed to be a daughter of the Tsar found pleading for help in the small villages around Yekaterinburg. She is said to have claimed that she had been in the hands of guards who had rescued her after the massacre, and then beat and raped her. Shortly afterward, she is said to have disappeared.
Anastasia's possible survival was one of the celebrated mysteries of the 20th century. In 1922, as rumors spread that one of the grand duchesses had survived, a woman who later came to call herself Anna Anderson appeared in Germany and claimed to be Anastasia. She created a life-long controversy and made headlines for decades, with some surviving relatives believing she was Anastasia and others not. Her battle for recognition continues to be the longest running case that was ever heard by the German courts, where the case was officially filed. The final decision of the court was that while it could not prove that Anderson was in fact Anastasia, it could also not prove that she wasn't. Anderson died in 1984 and her body was cremated. DNA tests conducted in 1994 on a tissue sample located in a hospital and the blood of a close Romanov relative indicated she was not Anastasia as she had claimed. Another claimant, Eugenia Smith appeared in 1963, at the height of the 'Anastasia/Anna Anderson' controversy, but her story too had inconsistencies and she refused extensive DNA testing.
In 1991, bodies believed to be those of the Imperial Family and their servants were finally exhumed from a mass grave in the woods outside Yekaterinburg. The grave had been found nearly a decade earlier, but was kept hidden by its discoverers from the Communists who still ruled Russia when the grave was originally found. Once opened, the excavators realized that instead of eleven sets of remains (the Tsar, Nicholas II, the Tsarina, Alexandra, the Tsarevitch, Alexei, the four Grand Duchesses, Olga, Tatiana, Maria and Anastasia, the family's doctor, Eugene Botkin, their valet, Alexei Trupp, their cook, Ivan Kharinotov and Alexandra's lady-in-waiting, Anna Demidova) the grave held only nine. Alexei and, according to the late forensic expert Dr. William Maples, Anastasia were missing from the family's grave. Russian scientists contested this however, claiming that it was the body of the Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna of Russia that was missing. American scientists thought the body to be Anastasia. In 1998, when the bodies of the Imperial Family were finally interred, a body measuring 5'7" was buried under the name of Anastasia, despite the fact that Anastasia was the shortest of the Grand Duchesses. Anastasia's actual height was only 5'2".
DNA testing confirmed these were the remains of the Imperial Family and their servants, although the fate of the two missing children will forever remain a mystery.
Some historians believe, and the lack of the two seemed to confirm, the account of the "Yurovsky Note" that two of the bodies were removed from the main grave and burned at an undisclosed location. The rationale was that this would create suspicion that these were the remains of the Tsar and his retinue should the grave be discovered by the Whites - the body count would not be correct. However, some forensic experts believe the complete burning of two bodies in that short amount of time would have been impossible given the environment and materials possessed by Yurovsky and his men.
In 2000, amidst low-key fanfare, the family was canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church.
Influence on Culture
Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaievna RomanovaThe possible survival of Anastasia has been the subject of both theatrical and made-for-television films. The earliest, made in 1928, was called Clothes Make the Woman. The story followed a woman who turns up to play the part of a rescued Anastasia for a Hollywood film, and ends up being recognized by the Russian soldier who originally rescued her from her would-be assassins.
The most famous is probably the highly fictionalized 1956 Anastasia starring Ingrid Bergman as Anna Anderson, Yul Brynner as General Bounine (a fictional character based on several actual men), and Helen Hayes as the Dowager Empress Marie, Anastasia's paternal grandmother. The film tells the story of a woman from an asylum who appears in Paris in 1928 and is captured by several Russian emigrés who feed her information so that they can fool Anastasia's grandmother into thinking Anderson actually is her granddaughter in order to obtain a Tsarist fortune. As time goes by they begin to suspect that this "Madame A. Anderson" really is the missing Grand Duchess.
In 1986, NBC broadcast a mini-series loosely based on a book published in 1983 by Peter Kurth called Anastasia: The Riddle of Anna Anderson. The movie, Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna was a two-part series which began with the young Anastasia Nicholaievna and her family being sent to Yekaterinburg, where they are executed by Bolshevik soldiers. The story then moves to 1923, and while taking great liberties, fictitiously follows the claims of the woman known as Anna Anderson. Amy Irving portrays the adult Anna Anderson. The movie also featured appearances by many veteran movie and TV actors, most notably Omar Sharif as Tsar Nicholas II.
The most recent film is 1997's Anastasia, an animated musical adaptation of the story of Anastasia's escape from Russia and her subsequent quest for recognition that took even greater liberties with historical fact than the 1956 film of the same name. In this account, a young Anastasia, along with her grandmother, is guided safely out of the imperial palace by a kitchen boy, Dmitri, on the night of the October 25th Bolshevik Revolution, which is depicted in the film as having been instigated by Grigori Rasputin. Separated from her grandmother by the jostling crowd of aristocrats fleeing the city, Anastasia is later found wandering the streets of St. Petersburg alone and placed in an orphanage. Released from the orphanage when she reaches her late teens, she is recruited by two con artists who hope to pass her off as Anastasia and collect the reward that the Empress Maria is offering for her missing granddaughter. One of these con artists happens to be Dmitri, now an adult, who eventually recognizes Anastasia as the girl he helped escape from the tsar's palace years before. The two ultimately fall in love and run away together, though not before Anastasia is reunited with her grandmother.
Anastasia's survival is also the subject of the song "Yes Anastasia" by contemporary musician Tori Amos. The band Innocence Mission also sings of the Anastasia/Anna Anderson legend in their song "I Remember Me". Anastasia is mentioned in the 1968 Rolling Stones song "Sympathy for the Devil" in the line "Anastasia screamed in vain."
Anastasia appears as a playable character in the 2004 PlayStation 2 Console role-playing game Shadow Hearts: Covenant.
Older namesake
Another Grand Duchess Anastasia of Russia (Великая Княжна Анастасия Михайловна) (July 28, 1860 - March 11, 1922) was the daughter of Grand Duke Mikhail of Russia. She was married to Grand Duke Friedrich of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.